An Interrogatory with: Georgia Tech
November 17, 2009 |
Mr. Blackburn
I went to the doctor this week to check out my excitement levels, the test came back "palpable with a slight case of over confidence." The Flyers win over Creighton was to be expected, as the Bluejays came into UD Arena seven point underdogs and missing some of their key cogs. The victory over Creighton gives the Flyers a bit of a psychological boost going into Puerto Rico. Whereas Georgia Tech opened up with a cupcake in Florida A&M, Dayton put it on the line against a formidable opponent. That is not to judge Tech, as UD certainly has its fair share of tomato cans on the horizon. We can make some judgements about Dayton's performance given the quality of opponent. I'm not sure the same can be said of Georgia Tech's 41 point dismantling of FAMU.
Don't fret. John Bird, Winfield Featherston and Dane Kalejta, writers for From the Rumble Seat, are here to provide some clarity. Among the discussion topics: how pro athlete copulation will benefit the Georgia Tech basketball program, Paul Hewitt's tenuous hold on his job, whether or not anyone outside of Montgomery Country knows about the U. of D., and Georgia Tech's infamous Management major. Prepare to be impressed.
TB: Paul Hewitt’s tenure in Atlanta has been erratic to say the least. Since reaching the championship game in 2004, Tech has struggled to recapture a consistent level of success. The Jackets have only reached the tournament once in the past four years. It seems that Hewitt has been on the hot seat for a few years now. Given the fact that Tech will likely lose Derrick Favors and Gani Lawal at the end of this year (who knows what Shumpert’s immediate future holds), is it safe to say that Hewitt must show significant improvement this year to retain his job?
My seat be smokin'FTRS: We conducted a poll earlier in the football offseason about Hewitt. There was a limited response but most Tech fans feel that if Hewitt doesn't do something miraculous in the tourney this year with the talent he's got returning, then he's not returning. NBA attrition aside, Hewitt has been given second, third, and fourth chances and he's just not done much with the great recruits he's pulled in. I think it's generally frustrating for Tech fans in that we've lived the nightmare that is the 1 year rule. Our program reaches a turning point and collapses with the signing of a multi-million dollar contract. This is the make or break year.
TB: Some observers were surprised to see Tech, coming off a 2-14 record in the ACC, picked fourth in the conference and come in ranked #20/#22 in the nation. Obviously, the media and coaches think that the Big Three of Lawal, Shumpert and Favors will spearhead a formidable attack for the Jackets this season. However, the fans perspective is often less optimistic. What are the expectations of the Tech fan base for this season?
FTRS: It's hard to gauge right now simply because so much of our fan base is still focused on football. It's hard to believe basketball season has started already. The fan base is about 50/50. Bird is one of those who thinks this season will produce something special and let Paul Hewitt (his hero) stay in Atlanta for a few more years. Winfield is on the other side of the fence. He is tired of the roller coaster ride that is Georgia Tech basketball and believes that Hewitt MUST do something to protect his job. There is less room to hide from the mediocrity grumblings now that football is winning again.
TB: Dayton fans are foaming at the mouth (goddamn squirrel pie) to get some insight on Derrick Favors. From afar, he clearly comes with the reputation as a game changer. What is his role on this team and what do you expect from him this early in the season?
FTRS: Simply put: Favors is expected to make a difference. In our only other game of the season, Derrick started, played the 2nd-most minutes (24), and scored 10 points with 8 rebounds. He will start and play alongside Gani Lawal. If Tech was to ever have a Carmelo Anthony-type player for one year, it's Derrick Favors. Expectations are running wild in Atlanta.
TB: Gani Lawal is maybe the most unheralded player in the nation. The man eats double-doubles for breakfast. After flirting with the NBA Draft, Lawal returns for his junior season. For those of us not familiar with Gani’s game, give us a brief overview of his skills.
FTRS: Gani isn't necessarily an explosive big man as much as he's a hard worker (hence all the boards he collects). He plays hard every single possession and works for rebounds. Over his three years at Tech, he has improved dramatically in all facets of the game. He is probably the most appreciated player on Tech's squad just because of his decision not to leave for last year's Draft. In short Gani collects double doubles, blocks shots, and grabs offensive boards like its nobody's business. His strong presence alongside the raw talent of Derrick Favors will be tough for most of our ACC opponents to cope with. Good luck.
TB: Iman Shumpert is a nightmare to matchup with at the two guard, Lawal is almost impossible to shut down, throw in Favors and Tech has a three-headed monster that can rival just about anyone in the nation. How does Hewitt balance this year’s attack to get the most out of this team?
FTRS: Honestly, this is the most talented group of big men we've had since Chris Bosh and Ed Nelson. It'll be interesting to see how Hewitt coaches this team because typically we live and die in transition with big, strong guards and wings. Tech fans are looking for Shumpert to have a great season just because no one can key on our guards when they've got to worry about two legitimate threats to score down low. Concerning guard play, D'Andre Bell will also be a key figure in this game. He returns from a spinal injury and he is the emotional leader of this year's squad.
TB: Atlanta is home to so many current and former pro athletes in the offseason that their seeds were bound to be spread around the city at some point. Georgia Tech is taking advantage of this phenomenon as freshman Glen Rice, Jr. joins the squad this season. (I was shocked to learn that Brian Oliver was not the son of the former Tech great of the same name.) Talk a little bit about the incoming class. Who can we expect to play a major role early Thursday morning?
And you will know him by the trail of deadFTRS: Derrick Favors is definitely the cream of the crop. He'll be the most noticeable freshman on the court and will probably receive the most minutes as he'll mostly be splitting time with Gani. Mfon Udofia and Glen Rice will see some PT but Hewitt has shown a-likin' to Udofia. Udofia started at point against FAMU and may start against Dayton. This early in the season we're gonna see what we call "Hotel Hewitt." Lots of guys in and out. Hewitt's micro-managing style is at its peak during the pre-ACC season. I think a lot of the PT will be dependent on how confident Hewitt feels about Moe Miller. It appears Hewitt hasn't really caught the Moe Miller fever and is platooning the point guard position for the first few games.
TB: Although Tech is primarily known for its Engineering program, its Management major has received some notoriety for a curriculum that is very “athlete friendly.” What is your take on GT’s management major? Is it easy as publicized? Are regular students allowed to enroll in these courses?
FTRS: Management's curriculum isn't necessarily on the level of the engineering coursework recently featured in the NY Times but the College of Management offers pretty legitimate degrees compared to the average Basketball Factory-type school. This ain't basket-weaving major. How many schools do you know that require players to take coursework involving even one Calculus let alone two? The Institute doesn't hide anyone from the rigors of Georgia Tech academics, athlete or not. We expect everyone to attain a world class education. Management has a lot of athletes but it is mostly populated by Georgia Tech students seeking accounting degrees, management training, or pre-reqs for graduate work. In summary, the only people who can joke about the management majors are the engineering majors on campus.
TB: Be honest, you know nothing about Dayton. Without referring to the interwebs, what can you tell me about the Flyers off the top of your head?
FTRS: Oh surprise surprise! Winfield lived in the Dayton area during Oliver Purnell's tenure. So there is some knowledge but it's dated, Winfield, what do you got? Oliver Purnell had the opportunity to leave and coach for Virginia Tech but chose not too. He now coaches in Clemson and has put that program on the map. In the late 1990's, Dayton played Purdue out west in the NCAA Tournament and lost in the 1st round. You play in the Atlantic-10 conference and y'all hate Xavier. Also, your football program isn't very good but you play in the Pioneer League. That's about all I got/remember!
TB: Prediction time. Vegas figures to make Tech a slight favorite going into Thursday’s contest. What’s your take? Give me the winner, margin of victory and player o’ the game.
FTRS: Well, Hewitt is 10-4 all time in early season tournaments. He seems to love the tournament style play because he's usually got good depth, if anything. GT is dangerous in the early season. We have so much turnover season-to-season through NBA defections and academic casualties that it is incredibly difficult for Hewitt to develop team chemistry. On the other hand, it's very tough to game plan for GT because there literally is no college film on our starting lineup early in the season.
We at From The Rumble Seat predict a close GT win because of our returning talent. Expect GT to give up a big lead to start the game and eventually whittle down the Flyers. GT wins ugly one in early morning contest: GT 85, UD 79. MVP: Gani Lawal with a double double, of course.





















Reader Comments (25)
"The Institute doesn't hide anyone from the rigors of Georgia Tech academics, athlete or not. We expect everyone to attain a world class education."
Holy shit is that funny. Just once - once - can someone sack up and say "Our entire basketball team majors in criminal justice, though its mostly criminal and not so much on the justice." Or maybe "The Management program is renowned for having chubby white girls stroking black cock through the pockets of their Sean John's in class." Or even "Who the fuck cares. Hasn't attended class since the 7th grade and will outearn the collective incomes of all blog posters as a 19 year-old."
Not Tech, though. Favors signed because he thought the single Calculus class at Duke was for pussies.
Yeah, Tech is one of those schools that pretends the athletes are real students. Tech's management program is notorious for coddling athletes. I guarantee Favors is taking like 2-3 courses, with the help of tutors. Once he is eligible for the spring semester, there is no way that cat is going to class.
Remember, this is the school that Stephon Marbury attended. I still remember his announcement ceremony. "I plan on attending Georgia Tech University." If only it was called that, Stephon.
Georgia Tech has some of the worst graduation rates for athletes (basketball and football) in the nation.
While the lack of information about UD is to be expected, it is nonetheless infuriating. I hope we slap them bitches in the mouth.
And the "doesn't hide anyone from the rigors of Georgia Tech academics" line sounds like your typical BCS glibness. It's hard for me to believe that they actually believe what they just said.
Wow, that post really got my mid-major inferiority complex going.
They really know nothing about our team, do they? Picking GT because of the returning talent? What would you call our team - a bunch of red-shirted freshman with no playing experience?
UD 66, GT 61
I wrote the line about putting everyone through the same programs. It's definitely true. Academics and athletics don't mesh at Georgia Tech. I can name three starters off of CPH's squads that lost half the season due to academics. The Institute doesn't dick around with SA's. You guys can call it drinking GT Kool-Aid but I call it the truth. "Management is notorious for coddling SA's" is pure BS.
Notable football academic casualties: Reggie Ball, Kenny Scott (starting QB and CB on our 2006 ACC Coastal champ team)
Notable basketball academic casualties: Lewis Clinch, Will Bynum, Ra'Sean Dickey, Theodis Tarver
Seriously, we have terrible graduation rates because our average graduation rate for students is low. Athletes actually have a higher graduation rate than Tech's normal student body. School sucks at the Institute. Period.
@Bird: I'll accept that, it's not like Tech is the lone BCS school not graduating players. Just out of curiosity, do you know the percentage of players majoring in Management for Tech's bball team this season?
Here I was thinking you guys would be happy that somebody down here in Atlanta knew something about the Flyers, past or present. Sigh, I guess I'll just have to wait for the next time yall are on BracketBuster Saturday or something.
@Bird: I by no means am trying to start an argument. I understand Georgia Tech's academic prestige. But I think it a bit disingenuous to truly believe that any major D1 athletic program's foremost interest lies in educating its athletes. I do respect the fact that they have booted some marquee names, but ultimately Georgia Tech's intention isn't graduating the Bill Bradley's and Myron Rolle's of the world. And I think this is the case for the vast majority of respectable athletic programs.
I'm a UD grad who went to Tech for grad school--"got out" in 2006. I saw many an undergrad leave engineering for the M train:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NzNKKrYHqY
...and I saw plenty struggle with that too. Even MGT sux at Tech.
That being said, I never saw Jarrett Jack, Ish, or Luuuuuuuuuuuke running around Tech Square looking like they were struggling as much as the rest.
anyone watching the ESPN marathon?
THE MOTHERFUCKIN 'STACHE IS BACK
@Sancho: i'm watching it as we speak. Lutz must mean fucking business this year.
@JMB: hilarious video. Not sure about the casting. You walk on Tech's campus and you swear you are either in Taiwan or New Dehli. There wasn't a single Asian or Indian kid in that video. Although there probably isn't a single Indian or Asian in the Management program either. Touche.
after reading that piece i have just one question...
why is there a "vibrators.com" website ad on Blackburn Review? There's got to be little to no chance that women visit this site
@Tommy T: you have so much to learn. I believe there is a "bi-curious" section on the site.
is it just me or does the W flag in the schedule much to closely resemble that stupid flag cubs fans wave. please tell me this was not intentional.
@winteringand: oh it was intentional. all for donoher.
@Blackburn - Currently, 16 guys on roster. 6 management majors. 3 engineers. 6 undecided (frosh). 1 history. So not too bad.
@JMB - Keep in mind, Jarrett Jack came back after his rookie season with the Trailblazers and finished his degree alongside BJ Elder.
And not to turn the tables on you guys but what is an electronic media degree or "General Studies"? I don't mean to sound harsh but could you guys look at your own team's majors before you judge Tech's student athletes?
The difference is that here nobody is claiming that UD turns out brain surgeon type material on the basketball team. UD has a very good graduation rate and has decent guys who stay out of the police blotter, but nobody here says that they are going to make a spaceship that runs on fat girls underwear.
@DaddyD: That post was heaven
@Bird: let me take a wild guess, the engineering guys are probably either white or walkons? Just a stab in the dark.
By no means are we trying to say our guys are Rhodes Scholars, that was our point. We are under no preconceived notions that the basketball players are anything more than ATM machines for our university.
I lived in Atlanta for about ten years, went to high school down there and everything. I know Tech is a great engineering school, but I always had to laugh at Tech fans throwing that "our kids go to school" BS while they are recruiting the Stephon Marbury's of the world.
That being said, I hope you understand that we don't take shit too seriously over here, all is in jest. We really appreciate you guys taking the time out to answer my questions. If you are ever in New York you can crash on my couch and I will give you a pint of my blood to take home with you.
I went to UD, I drank beast like a religion and probably was in the Arena double I was in the library (like 100 games or more) ... I got through UD and am currently doing my masters ... don't tell me the basketball players at Tech aren't skating by.
I played with David Lee in highschool, I was a sophomore on Varsity and he was a senior. He ended up going to Florida (then to the Knicks) and he would come back and tell us at practices that one professor promised to give him an A, if he gave him a signed basketball by the entire team and 4 tickets to the Tennessee and Georgia games that season.
BCS and Non BCS students that are stars or above average athletes on their sports teams can skate by if they chose, its only the smart ones who realize they may not make it in pro sports.
Who graduated with a degree in Electronic Media from the U of D? This guy! Without a doubt the easiest major at UD other than perhaps Elementary Education. Flight for PR leaves in like 8 hours, giddy up.
^I'd disagree. Easiest degree is General Studies, which I now am. Basically the cover-all/security-blanket degree.
Marbury was a Cremins recruit and the negative publicity from his recruitment (and subsequent departure) was one of the ultimate deal breakers at the end of Bobby's tenure. Hewitt is a great recruiter and tries to pull in kids he feels will stay multiple years. His system is not built for one and dones particularly at point guard (as evidenced by our struggles). The recruitment of Austin Jackson (MLB) and Javarris Crittenton (NBA) really hurt Paul's teams and fan base respect at Tech. Hewitt usually focuses his classes and time around solid PG's and neither guy panned out/stayed long enough to have an impact. So instead of competing, we've looked lost lately without ACC-caliber play at point 'cause I think Paul is afraid of recruiting another one and done PG.
@Blackburn - Concerning academics, I think Tech fans are just happy that the athletes that are at Tech are getting quality degrees. Hence, the majority of Tech fans' high horse. The SA's aren't in general studies, poetry writing, or some other unmarketable major. So when they don't get drafted and need to actually work for real, they can find real jobs.
I guess I'm done with my ranting and raving. Good luck in Rico.
Holy Shit
GT Management Degree > St. Bonnies Welding Certificate
@ any UD fan that feels like they want to bring up graduation rates
Exactly how many of your athletes get drafted and/or currently play in the NBA? You only graduate such a high percentage of your basketball players because none of them are good enough to make a career out of it and I'm willing to bet they are still struggling to pass their "Housing" and "General Studies" majors.
In about one hour, you'll all get to see why your players need to graduate and why ours will all be playing in the NBA.