I took the time out of my busy day of couch sitting to discuss tomorrow's game with Kansas blogger Cory Brenneman. Cory runs the KU site, Rock Chalk Talk, an excellent blog which covers all things Jayhawk. In this interrogatory we discuss Bill Self's hair, whether those stories linking Wilt Chamberlain to Dayton are true, Thomas Frank's book, What's the Matter With Kansas?, and Kirk Hinrich's obsession with Chili's. Secaur, of PB & a B fame, did a more lucid Q&A with Mr. Brenneman as well--check it out here. Secuar and I returned the favor, by answering some questions, over at RockChalkTalk.com.
Kansas has overachieved all season. The Jayhawks graduated six seniors from last year’s Championship squad. All the starters left Lawrence with smug satisfaction and a “Get Out of Jail Free” card. With only four returning scholarship players, what were the expectations coming into this season?
My expectations, and most were similar, was a Top 4 finish in the Big 12 and a trip to the NCAA Tournament. Maybe even a W, if we got lucky. Needless to say, we've exceeded those expectations already. The real purpose of this year was to set the stage for a potential National Title run next year, and if Cole and Sherron stay, we've done plenty go work towards that goal.
Kansas is essentially a two-headed monster this year. A steady diet of Sherron Collins and Cole Aldrich has led this year’s Jayhawk team to a regular season Big 12 title. Dayton’s defense is so intense that it borders on criminal. The entire team was arrested after its game against St. Joe’s this year and charged with “defense of a smothering nature.” Charges were later dropped. I can guarantee you this much, UD will key on Collins and Aldrich and make someone else beat them—or die trying. Who is this “someone” KU can count on to score if Ebony & Ivory are held in check?
There are two prime candidates: Marcus Morris and Tyshawn Taylor. Both could explode, in their own way, and lead us to victory. However, the much more likely choice would be Tyshawn Taylor, a freshman guard. He is incredibly difficult to stop when he is going to the rim, and has a penchant for banking in the threes. Against Oklahoma, when we badly needed a third amigo, he came up big with 25 points, or something like that. He has the talent to explode, and if his jumper is on, he likely will.
Kansas is easily one of the most respected college basketball programs of all time. An endless round ball tradition, a roster that is continually filled with McDonald’s All-Americans, and a coaching pedigree that is unmatched. Dayton is…well, Dayton. Tell me everything you know about Dayton going into tomorrow’s game. (Besides the fact that Chris Wright is dunktastic.)
Basically, from what I've seen, you guys are like a mid-major version of West Virginia. Athletic as hell, rangy, long. Jay Bilas should call your games, because he'd have a field day. Also, tough-as-nails on defense. On offense, a team of mid-range jump shooters that struggle when stepping behind the three-point line.
Kirk Hinrich is without a doubt my favorite Jayhawk of all time. I think it was his hair and his Midwestern “aw-shucks-iness” that drew me to him. My roommate in law school interned for Hinrich’s agent and was charged with arranging some of Kirk’s “necessities.” His main objective was to get Hinrich free shit. Free cars, free plane tickets, free clothes, etc. However, this wasn’t enough. Kirk wanted to get free meals at his neighborhood Chili’s. So, my roommate spent countless weeks emailing and calling the restaurant’s marketing department in order to get Kirk free meals at any Chili’s across our great nation. The problem, of course, is that Chili’s is a franchise—so my roommate had to place calls to Chili’s whenever Kurt was on the road and wanted free Boneless Buffalo Wings and a Cajun Ribeye. Knowing this information, that a multi-millionaire wanted free food from a chain restaurant, do we like Kirk more or less? Dig deeper, what does this say about Mr. Hinrich?
Wow. That is awesome. I have no idea what to say, though. I mean, sure, it's free food, but at least it's just Chili's. It isn't like he wanted Ruth's Chris everywhere he went. And yes, I'm grasping at straws trying to find the positive. I've got absolutely nothing. To answer your actual question, though, I think that the 'likeness' stays the same. It goes up because it's "just Chili's", plus that's cool. It goes down because that's just selfish as hell. So, that's all I've got. No more love, no less love. Not to cop out, or anything.
One of the best socio-political books I’ve read, due to the fact that it’s the only one I read, is “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” by Thomas Frank. The premise of the book is that Kansans’ provide overwhelming support for Republican candidates even though conservative economic policies tend to hurt the working-class sectors of the country that are prevalent in the Midwest. Frank’s argument is that voters in Kansas are in a continual revolt against liberal social attitudes and forsake their fiscal well-being by supporting Republicans. Lawrence is supposed to be a hot-bed of college liberalism. I sometimes lay awake at night and wonder, do townies hate KU students? Do KU students despise the townies? Are the Socs and the Greasers going to battle in the quad?
I'm not a Kansas student, regrettably, so I have little to say about any potential brawls. And I can say you've got me beat on the amount of socio-political books read. But everything you said seems to make sense. Yes, Kansas as a whole is as republican as it gets (it even gets Mormon-filled Utah a run for its money), while Lawrence is quite liberal. They all get along, though, with Kansas basketball being the unifying force. Unless you're a K-State fan, then there's just Bill Snyder to unite the two. But Manhattan isn't nearly as liberal as Lawrence, so maybe there isn't a gap that needs to be bridged. I don't know.
Let’s get back to basketball. Bill Self stepped in after Roy Williams left for North Carolina and was able to bring home a title to Lawrence, something Williams was never able to do. How do KU fans view Self in comparison to Williams? Do they merely think he was like Steve Fisher or Tubby Smith in the sense that he could win with his predecessor’s players but could never achieve the same success with his own?
Most, including myself, like Bill Self more and, more importantly, consider him the better coach. Some still love Roy to death, and will never really move on, while others will hate Roy to death (literally, in their wishes), and will never really move on. But the majority thank him for his accomplishments while our Head Coach, wish him good luck in Chapel Hill and have moved on to Self. From watching both, like I said, Self is the better coach. As for the Steve Fisher/Tubby Smith remark, it couldn't be more different. Self struggled early on with first-round upsets to Bucknell and Bradley with Williams' players, before winning it all with a roster entirely devoid (besides Jeremy Case, who never saw the court save for blowouts) of Roy Williams' influences. If you're comparing Williams to Fisher and Smith, that is a much more valid comparison. And, one I would agree with. My theory is that he becomes too emotionally attached to his own players, when he recruits them and guides them through 4 years of college, and always finds a way to choke at the end. It's almost certainly unfair to put it on such a metaphysical thing, but that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
A follow-up on Self, this is something that has bothered me for a long time and I figured that a Jayhawk fan could provide some clarity on the situation. What in the hell is on top of Self’s head? It clearly isn’t human hair. Is it a toupee, a wig, some sort of weave? Please put this mystery to rest.
If you look at old pictures, like mid-90's old when he was coaching Oral Roberts, it's clear what was up there wasn't natural. Not by a long shot. But now, with as much as I've seen him on the TV, I'm positive that it's all natural up there. Well, not entirely natural. It's almost certain he used hair plugs or one of those hair-growing things you see on infomercials that "grow your own hair". But it isn't a toupee, or a wig, or anything. Maybe that's just my love for him giving him the absolute benefit of the doubt, though. Who knows.
Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest player ever to wear a Jayhawk uniform. We’ve all heard about his 100 point game, about the season in which he led the NBA in assists, and the time he had his Dipper inside three women at once. A story about the Stilt that I’ve never head outside of UD circles discusses his recruitment by the University of Dayton. I will provide the following excerpt and I want you to react with extreme prejudice:
“He was promised room, board, tuition, a car, plane rides home to Philadelphia and $60 a week "pocket money" to go to the University of Dayton, but Chamberlain decided on Kansas, partly because Coach Forrest ("Phog") Allen was the only recruiter who suggested that he could get an education at college too.” (Time Magazine)
I have also heard reports stating that Wilt was going to come to Dayton before he realized that racist attitudes flourished in the Gem City. I have always doubted this story for two reasons: one, UD never had someone like Chamberlain in the program, so why would the most sought-after recruit in history come to Dayton? Two, Kansas wasn’t exactly the most racially accepting area of the country either. So, my question is—have these reports ever filtered through to Kansas fans or are they just tales of whimsy made up by a drunken Dayton sportswriter?
I'll be honest, I've never heard that Wilt the Stilt was heading to Dayton before. That quote was news to me. And, like you, I do find it hard to believe that he would have chosen Dayton over every other program in the country. But, who knows. Maybe he just wanted to take his act somewhere unique, to stand out. But no, I had never heard of him potentially going to Dayton.
You mentioned that you saw the UD/WVU game on Friday. What concerns you the most about this Flyer team?
Their tough, physical D and their athleticism. If we aren't hitting our threes, I'm very worried that we won't ever score, ever. Oh, and Chris Wright and our lack of a good matchup worries me plenty, as well.
Let’s hear a prediction. Give me the winner, margin of victory, and the player of the game.
I think we win. I keep on envisioning situations where we'll lose, and stuff, and won't be terribly surprised if we do lose. But, in the end, we're more likely to win than lose.
For the score, I'll go: Kansas 72 Dayton 61. Low-scoring, for the most part, but a couple of key second half runs by the Jayhawks aren't matched by the Flyers.
Player of the Game: Cole Aldrich. The dude is just too good to be contained. Even if they devote 2 or 3 players to the big guy, he should still score plenty. He's just the best.